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Johnny’s initials are J.C. Do you think the author did this consciously to make the reader think about the qualities that Johnny has that Jesus Christ taught? How does Johnny reflect the teachings of Jesus?
ReplyDeleteJohnny describes Dallas (Dally) as gallant, cool and calm. What actions show that Dally fits this description?
Yo Bloggers,
ReplyDeleteThe actions that makes Dally fit this description is that he thinks it is cool to do thinks like drink beer, so he acts cool. He is calm because he thinks this is cool and it gets him chicks. I think Johnny describes him like this because this is what Dally thinks but not really is. I think Johnny is sort of right but mostly not because I would not describe Dally like this. I would describe Dally as selfish and cocky.
From, JO0523
For the question about J.C. well actually I didn't even think of Jesus Christ since you brought it up. But no I don't think that the author did that for a coinincidence of Jesus Christ. Though then the next part of the question was how does Johnny reflect the teachings of Jesus and well I don't think he does reflect Jesus mainly because Johnny killed a guy! The meanest thing Jesus does was like nothing!
ReplyDeleteTa-Ta!
RD0727
JO-
ReplyDeleteI think that Dally is selfish, cocky, and he thinks he is all that and a bag of chips too! And you aren't supposed to be like that the last time I checked.
Hakuna Matata,
RDO727
Yes I think the other did J.C purposly. Some teachings that Johnny does that is like Jesus is that you should be nice to one another like Jesus.
ReplyDeleteSome actions that show Dally cool and calm are that he can get away from mostly any crime there is. I agree with JO about Dally too.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure if the author intentionally made Johnny's initials J.C. to remind us of Jesus Christ. I didn't pick up on that section when I read it. I did wonder what his last name was though. So far it hasn't said. I made the conection that Ponyboy Curtis's last name started with a C but then I remembered that Johnny has parents. I agree with RD0727 about Johnny not reflecting Jesus a whole lot. About the meanest thing that Jesus did was flip over the table in that one temple, and even then he had a good reason behind doing that. Johnny is taking care of Ponyboy though, Jesus would probably do that if he got him into trouble, except the only people that Jesus got in trouble with the law were the people who intentionally followed him and were aware of the consequences. Ponyboy was not aware of the dire consequences.
ReplyDeleteCiao,
OR1020
Bloggers,
ReplyDeleteJohnny describes Dally as gallant cool and calm because when he shows up at the party he invites them in wiht out any hesitation. Then on top of that when they tell the story he doesn't yell at them. Then on top of that with in five minutes he comes back with 50 bucks and a loaded gun. And then on to[p of that he tells where they can go to be out of sight for the story to die down a bit. Then he tells them what to get when they get there. then they follow through with the plan. Then the next mourning they are looking back on the last week. Then they realize it was just last night that they sat behind those girls.
How life going?
ReplyDeleteI just have to comment on OR and RD's blogs. OR right before I read yous comment I thought, RD wasn't exactly right about "The meanest thing Jesus does was like nothing!" The first thing that came to my mind was that Jesus was angery and was kind of mean to accomplish his goal.(Matthew 21:12 Jesus at the Temple) "Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves." That would be classified a mean thing in the eyes of the people who were kicked out. So I agree with OR that Jesus was mean at some times.
Now this is answering on of the comments Ms. S made.
Jesus would do anything for a friend, or anyone. I mean he gave his LIFE just so we could live in the kingdom of God. That is a hard thing to to give up your life and your future no matter what it is for. Johnny saved Pony's life but by doing so he had to kill someone. He knew that he would probably go to jail for life or get executed, and if he didn't go to jail for life he would have a hard time finding a job with a murder on his hands. So they both gave something up for someone other then themselves.
They also both don't like fighting, "The night of the Passover when Jesus was in the gardan they came to take Jesus. One of the deciples pulled out a sword and cut off the ear of a servent, Jesus told him to put it away." Johnny didn't fight because he knew how it felt to be on the losing end of the fight.
LS
P.S. I don't think she ment anything with the whole J.C. thing.
P.P.S. Sorry this is so long, you don't have to read it.
To everyone, (this should be a little smaller than previous ones)
ReplyDeleteDally fits Johnny's description of him because if Dally goes to jail for something he doesn't tell the police anything. He doesn't get that worked up about things.
The one and only,
LS
Bonjour,
ReplyDeleteJohnny's initials are J.C. I kind of thought them as Just Crazy or J.C. I never thought of them as Jesus Christ. I don't believe that the author did this on purpose, but you brought up a very great point. If that's what they're suppose to remind us of then they need to re-think, or maybe I do! I don't think Johnny is living a very Christian life. I really think he does care about his friends though. I don't think he teaches like Jesus either.
Bonjour,
PK0913
HELLO,
ReplyDeleteAnswering to the question asked about Johnny describing Dallas (Dally) as gallant, cool, and calm. I have to agree with almost everything JO0523 said. Dally is cocky and seems to get away with everything he does. He is not a good romodle at all. The things he does are dumb and abusive. Your right too rd0727 that people shouldn't be this way. He thinks he's cool because of the stupid things he does. Gallant, brave, or special attention to women. Calm because he never seems to have problems with the police. I think this guy need help and needs to rethink what he's doing.
BYE,
Pk0913
Outsiders People,
ReplyDeleteIn a respond to JO0523, I would also describe Dallas as selfish and cocky. This kid is a little too confident. I think Johnny is just saying this because he wants to be friends or whatever they call each other. I don't think this is really a productive beneficial way to make friends, but everyone is different! I believe that with Johnny's parents passing this is one of the main reasons Johnny is turning out this way. If any of you feel differently please respond!
Type To You Later,
PK0913
Ms. Steffen,
ReplyDeleteI don't think that the author purposely gave Johny the initials JC for Jesus Christ. I think it was just a coincedence. I think that he kind of resembles Jesus Christ because he has a lot of virtues, and he's very calm and patient, and he only takes action when he really, Really, REALLY needs to. (Reffering to when he killed a 'soc' to protect ponyboy.)
LS, I completely agree with you on your statement of Johny's resemblence to Jesus Christ. I also think that you made a good connection to the story of Jesus in the temple.
ReplyDeletep.s. why did you tell us that we didn't have to read all of it at the very end?
I agree with PK, because Dally's personality/ characteristics aren't cool and gallant and calm, there selfish and sort of greedy. He's also a show off or a bragger or how ever else you say that.
ReplyDeleteKeep up the good work PK
I never would have made the connection between Johnny's and Jesus' initials,but, personnally, I don't think that the author did that consciously. I think that it was one of those every day coinicidences. Johnny reflects the teachings of Jesus because he cares so much about people, and he forgives. Some of you have said that Jesus was never mean or that Jesus never killed anyone. I disagree. Jesus could be mean if he had to get a point across. Now, the part about killing. I don't know about any scripture readings that say that Jesus killed anyone, but have you ever thought about how God killed the Egyptians so that the Hebrews could live? It's kind of like what Johnny did. He killed Bob the Soc so that Pony the Greaser could live. He also takes care of Pony after he kills Bob, just like God took care of the Hebrews after he killed the Egyptians. I don't know if you consider that as a "Jesus' teaching" or not, but I think that since God is three people, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, it should be considered. Do you guys agree? But Johnny doesn't only reflect the teachings of Jesus. He was also born into a poor life. Which is kind of spooky if you really want to think about it. Anyway...
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I agree with PK about some things on Dally's personallity. I agree that he's cocky, but I disagree about him getting away with everything. He goes to jail ALL the time. He goes to jail so much that he even goes to jail for things that OTHER people did. I also disagree about the things that he does are dumb and abusive. Some things that Dally does, shockingly enough, because it really is shocking, are, in my opinion, thought through. Making that not dumb, but not really smart either. Then the part about it being abusive. Some things he does, like the things he does to girls, are abusive or harassment or whatever you want to call it, I would know. But anyway, some of the things he does that support his few virtues and beliefs, are actually pretty noble-in a Dally sort of way. However, no matter how great the person, people usually need to rethink their lives; one of those many people being Dally.
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hey people,
ReplyDeleteThose descriptions fit Dally because he doesn't get scared when people come by he just fights back. And he is always drunk and doesn't care what is going on in his life, so he is just like the heck with it.
AH1128
Dear LS,
ReplyDeleteNice comment there. It is like long enough for a story. Holy Cow, and nice way to actually relate it to certain passages in the bible.
Way to go,
AH1128
Hey,
ReplyDeleteDally is like that because he never gets scraed. He'll never surrender in a fight. He also wasn't worried at all when JOhnny told him that he'd killed someone.
ZW
CK,
ReplyDeleteOf course I only read half of the question and it was taking me a long time to figure out what that was. SO obliviously they didn't do that consiously.
ZW
Everybody,
ReplyDeleteI dont think that the author put the initials J.C on purpous. I didn't even notice that until you brought it up! I think it was just a coincedence! I dont think that Johnny reflects on the teachings of Jesus at all concidering he killed someone!!!
MW0423
ZW,
ReplyDeleteI find that weird that Dally barley reacted when Johnny and Ponyboy told him that Johnny had just killed someone. Dally is just really melo!
MW0423
Dear people,
ReplyDeleteDally shows that he is what it says up there because he is sober at a party. So that helps him a lot when he's helping Jonny and Pony. He is always looking for a fight which it doesn't say up there.
From,
JW5896
Hey everyone!!!
ReplyDeleteIn response to LS0321 on May 17, 2009 at 8:12 AM. I never thought about how Johnny turned himself in so that Ponyboy could have a better life. That is a good point. Jesus died so that we can all have a better um...afterlife. I'm not sure if Jesus was really very quiet, but Johnny sure was.
I have just one question. How did Sodapop and Ponyboy wind up with such funny names and then Darry gets stuck with Darry. Well I guess it's short for Darrel, but still. I think I would change my name if that's what my parents named me. Sodapop and Ponyboy are cool and unique, but Darrel is not unique, you hear of people who's name is Darrel all the time. Well that's all I have to say.
Ciao,
OR1020
P.S. Sorry to all of you out there whose name is Darrel...I DIDN'T MEAN IT!!!
Dear friends,
ReplyDeleteI'm responding kk0109. He thinks he's all that. I hate people who think they are better than anybody else. Like celeberties, they only do things for others if a camera is on them. The best kind of people are the people that do stuff and don't expect to be rewarded.
Dear classmates,
ReplyDeleteI agree with jw5896. All Dally wants to do is get into a fight. That's not the right thing to do, aren't you supposed to stay away from fights and they'll get you no where? One day that will get Dally in a lot of trouble. That's how people get arrested and killed.
From,
ta1114
Dear dudes and dudets,
ReplyDeleteI'm responding to AH0926. Dally is always drunk and doesn't care about his future. He's just going to stay on the streets and make nothing with his life. Well until he gets killed. He's just a dumby but there are a lot of people who actually do that stuff.
AB,
ReplyDeleteI don't think that the author put JC as Johnny's initials on purpose. I didn't catch that until you brought it up! I can see how Johnny acts like Jesus, he is forgiving and feels terrible about killing someone and I don't blame him.
-ab
JO,
ReplyDeleteYou are so right when you say that Dally is selfish and cocky.
-ab
BK
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry for telling you that you didn't have to read all of it at the very end but some people look at the end first then go back up and read what they had wrote.
My apology,
LS
I think the author made Johnny's initials JC/Jesus Christ because I think she wanted to remind the readers that Johnny isn't a villian or evil, or intentionally killed that Soc at all and he was just trying to save Ponyboy's life. It's like when Jesus sacrificed himself on the cross for our lives and stuff, Johnny sacrificed his freedom to save Pony from drowning.
ReplyDeleteAB:
ReplyDeleteI think Dally isn't very gallant when he took the blame for Two Bit breaking the windows, because he might of just did that for leverage if he ever needed a favor from Two Bit.
-EV
GOODAY MATE
ReplyDeleteDally showed that he was gallant, cool, and calm greatly when he wasn't the one who committed the crime but he went to jail anyways for it. If that was me I wouldn't take the blame, and Dally really comes around when ya need him
=D
Everyone,
ReplyDeleteI personally think that his initials are JC because that is just what his parent's wanted to name him- I don't think that it has anything to do with Jesus Christ.
P.S. JC reminds me of JC pennys- not like anyone cares
ZW-
ReplyDeleteWhat question did you not completely read through?
-ck
I think that his initials might be related to Jesus Christ because he acts nice and cares about everyone. He has that soft heart that it kind of reminds me of Jesus because Jesus has a soft heart because he talks to sinners and stuff.
ReplyDeleteRH I agree with you. JC kind of reminds me of JC pennys. I don't care that much though.
ReplyDeleteDear Bloggers,
ReplyDeleteI think the actions that make Johnny think that Dally is gallant, calm, and cool is Dally is full of himself and he thinks he is cool. Why I think he thinks he is cool is because he has been in the slammer before! He is calm because when the girls at the movie were sticking up for themselves and not falling into his tricks he was patient, but then he just left. He is also calm when he gets arrested! He is gallant because he takes the blam sometimes for others crimes. Also he is a brave soul and he never gives up when he wants something it seems like. Blog to you all later!
Sincerely,
ms0618
I think Johnny's initials are like that because, he is a very nice kid and he is in a way like Jesus. He has a kind heart and he cares about people and isn't like most greasers, he is not a bad guy like most of the other greasers, he loves and depends on the gang and doesn't treat anyone with disrespect
ReplyDeleteRH,
ReplyDeleteI agree with you that Dally really does come around when you need, i probably wouldn't take the blame for someone unless they are my besti.
I think that the the author of this book made Johnny's initials j.c. the same as Jesus Christ because Johnny is a very humble kid. He is very shy and nice. Johnny reflects Jesus' teachings because Jesus wants people to be humble and truthful. Johnny wants to tell the truth about him killing the Socs. He also saved children and risked his own life. Jesus gave his life to us to open the gates of heaven.
ReplyDeleteen1218
I think that Johnny describes Dally as cool calm, and gallent because Dally was very calm about the situation with Johnny and Ponyboy. I think Johnny thinks Dally is cool because Dally thinks he is cool. I disagree though because Dally is more of a bad kid. I think this because Dally has gone to jail for a lot of thing and he seems to have not learned his lesson. I think he has too much pride to be told that he is wrong.
ReplyDeleteBloogers,
ReplyDeleteI am answering to question number 2. I think Johnny describes Dally that way because he helped them get out of town. Also because Johnny praises Dally. Johnny likes him a lot too. Dally likes Johnny too. Also, because he kept calm on a couple of events that happened in the book.
Bloogers,
ReplyDeleteI am answering to the first question. I think the author did make it that way because Johnny is a nice quiet man with a hard life. His parents don't like him but he still lives with them. Johnny reflects the teachings of Jesus by how he does it by actions in the book and how Ponyboy describes him. Ponyboy describes him as a good kid with a trouble life. Johnny is always there when the greasers need him. Just like Jesus is with us.
From,
bc0318
Bloggers,
ReplyDeleteIn the qeustion that Ms. Steffen ask about Johnny's initals J.C I don't think that she actually really tried to describe what qaulitlies Johnny has. I just think she used his this for the letter in his frist and last name.Talk to you later!
From mm0104
Hey bc,
ReplyDeleteI agree with what you said about how Dally shows away he has qaulities like Jesus.Everyone knows that Jesus is always there for them. Dally is a person who seems like he would go out of his way for other people. And do things for his friends. I would definitly Go out of my Way for my firends. Talk to you later.
From, mm0104
Well about the initials J.C. I would have to say has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. One reason why is because ponyboy barely reflects on Jesus at all so that really knocks the initials out of the picture. It is just a name otherwise I would suppose that soda pop (S.C.) and darry (D.C.) would mean something special to. I don't really think that ponyboy reflects a lot about Jesus Christ.
ReplyDeleteablycomy
Well about dally. He certainly is fit by the way pony describes him. I mean if I would hear about him in real life I would probably think he is huge. Now he is very calm. When Johnny talks about the time when dally took the rap for two bit. I think two bit is my favorite character.
ReplyDeletetottion
In an effort to have full disclosure, I have never noticed that connection between Johnny's initials and Jesus Christ before, either (and I have read this book too many times to count!)
ReplyDeleteThere was something about when I was reading the novel this time that made it catch my attention and I began to think about all of the qualities of Jesus that he does have. Obviously none of us possess all of the qualities of Christ, but I do think that we can see Jesus in everyone we meet (in real life or in novels!)
Ms. Steffen
All my lovely students,
ReplyDeleteI absolutely LOVE that you are not only challenging each other in your posts, but also the questions posed for the chapter! There are so many perspectives and so much background knowledge that we all bring to a book and I find it so fascinating to read through your thoughts : ) AWESOME!!!
Ms. Steffen
Johnny describes Dally as cool and calm. Dally is like this because he doesn't scream and shout when he gets in trouble with someone or the police. This describes him as that beacuse he doesn't make a big deal about everything. Dally is really all big and tough on the outside, but on the inside deep deep deep deep down he is a good person.
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