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“Quiet, soft-spoken little Johnny, who wouldn’t hurt a living thing on purpose, had taken a human life.” Describe Johnny and why killing someone was out of character for him. What drove him to such an extreme?
ReplyDeleteJohnny and Ponyboy were worried that they would look like hoodlums in the country. What does hoodlum mean and do they fit that description?
That was out of character for Johny because normally he tries to stay away from danger because he has been beat up by gangs, his dad, and ignored by his mom.
ReplyDeleteI think that he was driven to that extreme because they were about to kill Ponyboy and he couldn't stand watching that, or being beat up, so he killed them before they killed Ponyboy.
Hoodlum means that you don't exactly fit in with the group/ your surroundings, or if you cause trouble. They fit that description because they have ratty clothes and greasy hair, and they probably don't look like someone from the country.
ReplyDeleteMy fellow bloggers,
ReplyDeleteJohnny usually doesn't act all roudy like the other boys, but in his situation there are exceptions because 1st of all: the guy was drowning Ponyboy, and what was he suppose to do? Just let his friend die? I THINK NOT! And I bet that when Johnny cut him he wasn't planning to kill him. =D
RH0530
Johnny is a nice little shy boy who is usually very respectful. But ever since he got beat up by the kids in the blue mustang he has been very well skiddish ever since. That was out of character of for him because I think that he doesn't want to be like his dad and hurt things. Though that is just a thought.Then at the park Johnny was worried that the Socs were going to kill Ponyboy that he took out the switchblad and killed the boy that beat him up the one time! I think he got driven to such an extreme becuase he thought the Socs were going to kill Ponyboy! He got worried so he took things to the next level, which may have just been to far.
ReplyDelete=D,
RD0727
BK-
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, because I mean, what other reason would make him kill someone?? Well, besides the fact that he has a bad mom a bad dad a bad town and he always gets beaten by the socs, but whatever.
=D
BKO323,
ReplyDeleteI agree with your thinking about he did some of that because of his issues with his dad.
Happy Trails,
RD0727
Johnny is quiet and is scared easily. He is really jumpy ever since he was beaten by the Socs. He is tough and doesn't say much. He was beaten by his dad and ignored by his mom. He is also the baby brother of the gang. Johnny killing someone was way out of sorts for him because is so collected and calm and he wouldn't hurt a fly much less a person. What drove him to such an extreme is the Socs were about to drown Ponyboy and he just couldn't stand there and watch his best friend die so he pulled out his knife and stabbed the Soc. (He did for self-defence reasons. If you where him wouldn't you do the same?)
ReplyDelete-ab
RH0530,
ReplyDeleteYou are probably right Johnny wasn't trying to kill the Soc he was just trying to distract him so Ponyboy could breathe.
-ab
Bloggers,
ReplyDeleteI am answering to the first question. Johnny is a kid with a mean family. His mother pretends he wasn't there and his dad is really tough on him. When Johnny killed Bob,, it was out of character for him because he wouldn't hurt anything because he was usually the quiet one. It drove Johnny so much to the extreme because he wanted to help Ponyboy because he was getting killed. Johnny just wanted to help Pony.
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bc0318
Johnny is a very kind respectful shy boy. He has been scared very easily ever since he was beat up by the Socs in the blue mustang. He was Beat up by his dad and his mother ignored him. I think that killing someone was way out of character for Johnny because he is scared easily and I would think he is to scared to kill someone. I think it got to such and extreme because Johnny thought that the Socs were going to kill Ponyboy. Being worried didn't help anyone because now the Socs are probably mad at the Greasers for killing a fellow Socs and the Socs will probably go after the Greasers.
ReplyDeleteTo me hoodlums are people that drink, carry guns, steal things, do drugs, are poor, and heartless. I don't think that the Greasers fit into this name. I don't think they fit in it because yes they do steal thing and probably carry guns, are poor, and drink. But they are not heartless, and probably can't afford drugs. They are not heartless because all the Greasers try their hardest to protect their group. I think that the Socs it more into the group of hoodlums because they drink, carry knives and guns, steal things, , do drugs and are heartless. But they are not poor. They arre snotty rich kids.
ReplyDeleteYou know these guys really don't care if they kill someone or if they just rough them up a little bit but still they don't even get in troable for any thing. I mean the soc'es have all the stuff that really nice stuff and what is really weird is that they just go get drunk when ever they feel like it. and the greasers are the small town east side kids and are smoking instead of drinking I don't know what is worse.
ReplyDeleteyou know really am begging to wonder if sodapop and his other brother
ReplyDeleteknow he is gone yet? and I really wonder if they are really going to stay in the new place where they are going what do you think? And I don't think that those supplys that they have will be enough what do you think?
Well it's so out of character for Johnny killing that guy because he seemed so gentle and he's their pet, and he wouldn't hurt a fly. I think since Ponyboy was about to die that drove Johnny to such an extreme.
ReplyDeleteThe hoodlums are basically another gang that's worse than they are and they where hoods. I agree with ab0406 about Johnny.
ReplyDeleteHoodlums are people who commit acts of violence. Johnny and Ponyboy probably do look kind of like hoodlums to other people. This is because they have marks from fights and wear ragged clothes. They look strong and tough like they are capable of doing some voilent things. Their hair is a dead give away because it was probably a prototype that if you had that kind of hair you were a greaser. I think that if I lived in this time, the first word I would think of when I heard the word greaser would be violent. That's all for now.
ReplyDeleteCiao,
OR1020
Dear girls and anyone else reading this,
ReplyDeleteThe dictionary definition of hoodlums is,
1.A young rowdy; a rough, lawless fellow.
2.A gangster; a thug.
3.A tough, often aggressive or violent youth.
4.A young street ruffian, esp. one belonging to a gang
People in the gangs in this area have been prototyped as durty, ripped clothes, and greased hair.
Most of the above describe Johnny and Pony. So they changed their looks as much as they could so they don't fit that prototype.
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One of the many youths that are on line, LS
I don't like using the word hoodlums to describe them, because the first thing I think of is a kid who shots other kids in the back, I would use the words "ninny goat".
ReplyDeleteLS
ab
ReplyDeleteYou say he stabbed the guy in self-defence, but wouldn't it be friend-defence because it was to save his friend whom was getting hurt and not him.
But if it was either kill him or cut him I would cut him. I don't think anything could drive me to kill someone unless the person I have to kill was trying to kill a lot of people.(I probably would have been able to kill the people who crashed the plane on 9/11 if it was the only way to stop them.
LS
Dear friends,
ReplyDeleteI think Johnny's character when he killed the man was mad at the people who are supposed to love him. He has gotten jumped a couple of times, his dad beats him up, and his mom wished he would have never been born! All that hatred inside just couldn't stay in there anymore. So when somebody was going to hurt Ponyboy everything just exploded out of him like a bomb. He also may have did that for self defence as well, but who knows.
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ta1114
bloggers,
ReplyDeleteJohnny is a kid who would not kill a fly if his life depended on it. If Johnny wants to ever talk to his best friend again he has to do something. Johnny cares about Pony so much he comes out of his fear to save. Even if it takes someone elses live to do it. In this case it did. David the one who was drowning Pony was a Soc. Socs and Greasers are enimies. Johnny killed Bob a different Soc. And now they run.
/mk
Hoodlum means thug or gangster. It could also mean a young, tough, and lawless street person. Yes, I do think that Johnny and Pony fit the description. For one, they're in a gang. I don't know if I would exactly call them gangsters, but Dally at one point was. That doesn't mean that Johnny or Pony are, but they could end up being a one. Then there's the fact that they're young, tough, and don't usually follow laws. They steal, for example. The boys hang out on streets, too, which in my book, kind of makes them "street people".
ReplyDelete-ck
Bloggers,
ReplyDelete"Quiet, soft-spoken little johnny, who wouldn't hurt a living thing on purpose, had taken a human life."
As mk0627 said "Johnny wouldn't even kill a fly." This is the type of person Johnny is, or I should say was. Johnny is the gentle type, not the murderer type. This was way out of character for Johnny. I think he got so furious that his first instinct was to try to help, but he ended up making the situation in a way worse. I guess you can look at it like he was trying to save his friend, but killed someone out of it? It's not right, but I think he was trying to the right thing. I think Johnny feels terrible about the situation. I don't think he'll make the same mistake again.
Sincerely,
PK0913
Fellow Bloggers of The Outsiders,
ReplyDeleteI think Johnny and Ponyboy were worried that they would look like hoodlums in the country because they might look more hooligan, gangster, or punk looking. You usually see people that look like that in larger cities because it is more diverse with larger cultures. You don't see that as much in the country because there are more farmers in the country.
A "hoodlum" refers to a person who engages in crime and violence; a hooligan or gangster. So I would say they definitely fit that picture, not to be jude mental.
Blog To You Soon,
PK0913
MK-
ReplyDelete"Johnny cares about Pony so much he comes out of his fear to save. Even if it takes someone elses life to do it. In this case it did." I completely agree with you. Because Johnny likes, and as you said, cares about Pony so much, he'd do just about anything for him; even kill a person. Which sounds kind of extreme, but that's what he would and did do.
-ck
Hello fellow bloggers,
ReplyDeleteJohnny is this little pet to keep watch over to the group. He is the youngest and everyone watches out for him. He got jumped really bad to the socs once and that really knocked him up. He killed the guy because he was killing ponyboy, so then his anger and killed the guy.
AH1128
Hey KK,
ReplyDeletei think the same thing as you. Johnny just brought out his bad side.
AH1128
Hey guys,
ReplyDeleteJohnny is this really quiet guy who really just stands around. Johnny killed that soc because he jumped him before and he was drowning Ponyboy. I wouldn't kill anyone for that but I would like try to help the drowning person. Usually wouldn't you think it was the greasers jumping the socs?
ZW
AH, "Knocked him up" nice wording:) Yeah I think that's why Johnny chose to kill him because he could have killed anyone.
ReplyDeleteZW
I think that was out of character for Johnny because he is usually the one who would tell everyone else to stay out of trouble. I didnt think he would do that because of all of his bad experience of getting beat up by gangs, and his parents!
ReplyDeleteMW0423
ZW1215,
ReplyDeleteI do think that it would usually be the greasers jumping the socs now that you mention it! Because the socs should be the perfect ones who are good at everything and want to stay away from trouble!
MW0423
Dear bloggers,
ReplyDeleteHoodlem means a person that is really high all the time that gets in trouble all the time. Hoodlems dress all baggy and creepy. I think they are really creepy. Yes they do fit that description physically not emotional.
from,
Jw5896
I think Johnny killed a guy because he was fed up with everyone being hurt by them and how they treat them badly. It is out of character for Johnny to do that because he never hurts anything, and he is like the baby of the gang and not suspected to have to do anything crime /phisical.
ReplyDeleteZw,
ReplyDeleteyes i don't think it is unuasual for them to get jumped by the greasers.
Johnny, to describe him is to describe the characteristics of a mouse to put it simply: quiet, shy, on guard always, and frightened. When he killed the Soc he did it out of panic of Ponyboy's life because the Soc he cut was drowning him in the fountain. It's out of character because it's like a mouse killing a lion who's about to kill a lamb.
ReplyDeleteJW:
ReplyDeleteI disagree with your description of "hoodlum" because it doesn't necassarily mean that they are high as a kite on drugs. They could be high but hoodlums are mostly people who break the law frequently and seem really, really dark around the edges. The clothing doesn't fit either, because goth people can wear all of that dark baggy clothing, but that doesn't mean they'll rob a granny in the street to buy drugs or something.
-EV
EV1207, I agree with you when you on your discription of a hoodlum. I think that we a just to quick to judge them. They probobly steal because they are poor and need money. I don't think that all hoodlums get high though. I mostly think of hoodlums as in the geto of New York and they wear baggy clothes, are poor, and sometimes mug/rob people.
ReplyDeleteen1218
Hoodlums are kind of like gangsters and try to get into trouble all the time. I think the greasers fit that description easily. Some of them like Dally are always looking for a fight and trying to get into trouble. They also smoke, drink, beat each other up, but they are still loyal to one another. I also think that people would think things if they went to the country, but you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover!
ReplyDeleteBlog ya later,
BB0519
EV1207,
ReplyDeleteI agree with you that we quick judge them and we just think they're bad people right away. Before we even get to know them we go on judging them. That's something that's wrong with the world today. Even though this book was written a while ago the same things still happen today about judging people and the social outcasts.
BB0519
Hoodlum means that they are supposedly from the hood. And no they do not fit that description because in the book it even says that they are greasers and if you think that they are hoodlums please respond to my comment please.
ReplyDeleteJohnny is a boy who wouldn't hurt anything. He killed someone because the guy was drowning Ponyboy. He just killed him to save his friend and he didn't want to get hurt. So really it was self defense. I think that was bad, but it saved 2 lives instead of 1.
ReplyDeleteBB0519
Wow! You have some great conversation flowing here! Keep up the wonderful posts : ) Isn't blogging fun??
ReplyDeleteMs. Steffen
Dear peeps,
ReplyDeleteJohnny is a quiet innocent boy who wouldn't harm a fly. He had to kill the guy (Bob) because he was drowning Ponyboy so he had to act fast and svae him. Poor Johnny was trying to save him and he gets all scared and stabs him. Ponyboy really feels sorry for him because Jhonny just wanted to save him. Ponyboy didn't even know what happened until Johnny told him. It was a smart thing to do. Well, he did not have to kill him.
mg1502
Dear BB0519,
ReplyDeleteI agree with you on how it was self defense. I would have done that if it was me. I would not be able to sleep at night knowing I killed someone. I would feel so guilty and want to kill myself. I probably wouldn't kill myself, but I would feel terrible. I would probably feel so scared that the police would be after me.
mg1502 is done with this blog.
Dear bloggers,
ReplyDeleteHoodlum means to be kind of like gangster. They are greasers that get in a lot of trouble and usually go to jail. I think they would fit the discription because some of the greasers are hoods because the get in trouble and they still respect each other. I always imagined hoods to be like all mean and beats up everyone they see. Dally is not all mean he could still be very nice. At the end of the book there is a reason why he can be nice.
From,
mg1502